Yesterday's haul. ( The red patterned cover is The Illustrated Roger Zelazny, 1979.) First installment below: Children's Bible, Vol. 1
On the Fifth Day, God created... coelocanths and Pteranodon? Cool.
I'm assuming this was pre-Eve, because Adam is looking a bit... friendly with that there deer/antelope/whatever thing. Well... honestly, can you really blame him? Just look at those bedroom eyes.Whoa, I just noticed how tiny that elephant is. Were there a lot of dwarfs in Eden?
Pretty sweet pic of the Deluge, I gotta admit. Really nothing to snark about here.More awesome books in subsequent posts~
Can't wait until we get to the dinosaurs, it was a hobby of mine. Anyway, the illustrations on this one are beautiful. What does the head coming out of the water belong to in the pteranodon pic?
ReplyDeleteOh, you're into dinosaurs too? Wellllll then...
ReplyDeleteThe head is some kind of plesiosaur.
I was pretty excited to see prehistoric reptiles in a Bible book, lol.
Maybe an elasmosaurus? The form of the neck and size of the head seem to fit.
ReplyDeleteYou don't see that often that's true. It often goes straight to the eden part in the illustrations as far as living beings are concerned.
It's really hard to say, looks a bit short necked for elasmosaur, but then hard to know how accurate these sorts of artists were with paleontology :P Especially back in the 70's 80's and earlier... Oh I have plenty of inaccurate dinosaur illustrations to show off. I love them.
ReplyDeleteMy bad, thought it was the shadow but you can actually see the body. Since it's supposed to be really early in the evolution, it would probably be something along the lines of a nothosaurus then, ancestor of the plesiosaurs and pliosaurs families. The neck size matches. But as you said, it's probably a generic plesiosaur look alike.
ReplyDeleteCan't wait to see those illustrations.
Yeah it almost looks like a nothosaur, but if I were to put a bad guess on it then maybe something similar to a cryptocleidus or other shorter necked plesiosaur... meh. I don't bother trying to figure out these things, they probably just copied some other painting as happens VERY often in paleo art :P
ReplyDeleteNothosaurs rule btw, awesome that you know what they are.
BTW... if you like that sort of thing,
ReplyDeletehttp://mysite.verizon.net/markcrowell/Index%20of%20Vintage%20Dinosaur%20Books.html
and
http://homepage.mac.com/doubtboy/dinosaurbooks.html
http://homepage.mac.com/doubtboy/dinosaurbooks.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cambrian_park
Just found these a couple weeks ago.
Damn, I'm stupid. Nothosaurs don't have the "flipper" kind of limbs. I think you nailed it with the cryptocleidus *bows down*
ReplyDeleteTrue, there are so many different species that when the focus of the book isn't on the dinosaurs, it's often a generic member of a family.
Well I spent about seven years reading about dinosaurs when I was younger, I still have what's left in my memory and the archives I compiled during those years.
I'm glad you're into paleontolgy too.
Edit: Thanks for the links.
ReplyDeleteNo problem, hah I made this so I could share that kind of thing. Hopefully.
ReplyDeleteI started reading about dinosaurs when I was like... 5, I borrowed every dinosaur related book from the town library countless times. If you've seen my symbion-pandora DA, I have my collection of dinosaur books posted there, which keeps growing slowly.
Haha awesome. I see they got the dilophausaurus right, without the frilled neck.
ReplyDeleteI like the archaeopteryx cover. it's nicely drawn
http://symbion-pandora.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d29i05j
ReplyDeleteI just noticed my gallery was all screwed up, and the other book photos weren't in the correct folder... this was the first part of the collection.
Brings back memories of my dinaosaurs encyclopaedia. That's a really nice collection, I'm amazed I can still name most of the illustration (or at least try).
ReplyDeleteOne thing about illustrations is the coloring. We do not actually know what colours each species was. So it's kind of open to the illustrator...
Like that red and green stegosaur (looks mean btw) that's the first time I see this colour scheme.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100127-dinosaur-feathers-colors-nature/
ReplyDeletehttp://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/01/100127-dinosaurs-color-feathers-science/o/
You've read about those? XD
You did leave the Satanic ambush part out.
ReplyDeleteThe deer does seem alluring to Adam... WTF?
But yeah, this is before he tasted the fruit of knowledge, so as far as he knows that's exactly what deer are for.
I did read something about fine feathered dinosaurs some time ago, but the full body render is new to me.
ReplyDeleteThat's interesting, though it's not what people would think of if you told them "dinosaur"
I wonder what size the proto-feathers were. The ones shown in this render are rather large...
Sieg: Yes I'll have to post those sometime, they were from another book...
ReplyDeleteASPpeyre: some of the fossils show both small and large feathers. Most of the dinosaurs they found like that were pretty small though, like chicken size. Altho they found proto-feathers on Beipiaosaurus, which is a therizinosaur and fairly large.
(Feels odd to be called "ASPpeyre"...)
ReplyDeleteI saw an article about a short-feathered deinonychus, I wonder if they found any fossils of this one with the proto-feathers...
It seems to be a trait of bipedal dinosaurs, the ones bridging the gap between bird and dinosaur. I can't really picture larger quadrupedal dinosaurs with short feathers, they don't share any of the bird like features...
Coelurosauria within Theropoda, the bipedal dinos: http://tolweb.org/Coelurosauria/15769
ReplyDeleteEumaniraptora (leads directly to actual birds)within Coelurosauria:
http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm299/eva-st-clare/?action=view¤t=104EumaniraptoraPhyl.jpg
A more visual chart-- http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm299/eva-st-clare/?action=view¤t=104EumaniraptoraPhyl.jpg#!oZZ2QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs299.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm299%2Feva-st-clare%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3D104Eumaniraptora.png%26
Since feathery things have been found with oviraptor and therizinosaur types, I think the source of feathers is considered to be within Coelurosauria.
So basically some of the dinosaurs that haven't been found specifically with feathers in the fossils, are often speculated to have them because of close relations.
(APologies, I never get bored of it and have too many links/references around)
Hm judging by the position of the deinonychus->raptor families, it might be logical for them to sport proto feathers.
ReplyDeleteAlso thanks, I was trying to remember the oviraptor name.
Don't apologise, I'm enjoying this, and learning.
Hm now I remember, the dromaesauridae family shares many bird-like characteristics, mainly in their skeletal system (the angle of the neck and the form of the pelvis) and the deinonychus' hand structure is very similar to that of the first birds, that's why there was some hypothesis of them sporting feathers in the article I read about.
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